Transcript: initially when I encountered uh the violence in Islam I said well this can’t be the true Islam and I for years would push back arguing no this Hadith here is unreliable for example Muhammad says in sah Muslim that he has come to expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims that doesn’t sound like the Muhammad I knew so I said well that can’t be a reliable tradition and then another tradition from sahkari which says I have been ordered to fight people until they testify that there is no God but Allah and only then will their lives and their property be saved from me and this is from the most reliable collection of hadithi and so I said no that can’t be reliable either and as you continue you find Muhammad beheading M multiple hundreds of men at the same time um you see him uh Distributing those men’s wives and children into slavery you see him torturing people for money you see him um all these atrocities within Muhammad’s life and not always in defensive Battles by any means um offensively as well and so you after trying to dismiss many of these Traditions I said well let me let me piece together what’s going on here because if I dismiss all of these violent Traditions then I am basically dismissing the foundations of Islam this is where I get my picture of Muhammad from so looking just at the sources what is the story how do I reconstruct what Muhammad’s life is like and what you find when you do that because there certainly are peaceful passages in the Quran we can’t ignore that um like chapter 2: 256 of the Quran which says there there’s no compulsion in religion those are often the ones that are quoted in respon often chapter 109 which says you know those of you who disbelieve believe whatever you want and let us believe what we want fairly peaceful uh one of the ones that’s uh just I I can’t say this without laughing a bit but so abused is chapter 5:32 of the Quran which says um if you kill one person it says if you kill all of mankind and if you say if you save a life it says if you save all of mankind when you start understanding the context though you realize that this is not the ultimate Message of Islam for example that one verse 5:32 of the Quran says the first part of that verse is it was told to the Jews if you kill one person it’s as if you kill all mankind if you save life if as if you save all mankind and we do we find that in tractate Stan hedrin of the Babylonian tud I see it’s not in the Quran it’s not a teaching for Muslims the next verse is the teaching for Muslims uh which says if anyone creates Mischief in the land or strives against Allah or his messenger crucify him or kill him cut exactly so you start getting the context and what you find is in the first 13 years of Muhammad’s prophetic career um he lives a peaceful life he has about a hundred followers by the end of that time not that many um certainly doesn’t have a fighting force most of these people are of humble means um and he he doesn’t fight during that time but then he’s given rule over a city an entire city gives him uh the the right to be Arbiter from that moment until his death approximately 9 to 10 years he he personally participates in or deputizes 86 battles right so that’s an average of nine plus battles a year and they culminate in intensity until the moment he dies chapter n of the Quran is the last major chapter of the Quran to have been composed and it is the most expansively violent this is the one that starts off by saying this is a disavowal of all the treaties we have with polytheists chapter 9:5 slay the infidels wherever you find them lay Siege to them take them captive chapter 9:29 fight the Jews and Christians until they pay you the pole tax and they feel subdued why chapter 9:33 Islam has been made to Prevail over every religion so I mean chapter nine is the most violent it’s the culmination of the Islamic message it’s what it’s the marching orders that Muhammad leaves Muslims with which is why when he dies Muslims conquer onethird of the known world within 150 years right these were the By The Sword by well it’s it’s it’s complex once again they would tell places if you do not convert then you have the option to pay a tax and if you don’t pay that tax then we will fight you the G exactly so it was it was expanding into territory the first option people were given was conversion the second option was paying a tax and if that didn’t happen then it was then it was by the sword and do do you basically see this as effectively the modus operand of groups like Isis today well this has been the classical understanding of Islam up until the fall of the Ottoman Empire no Muslim really ever had qualms with it it’s it’s what it was and this is the me the means through which Allah had given Muslims dominance around the world and it wasn’t until Muslims had to had to as culture flip the script and start playing the defensive the victim uh card which they hadn’t done before uh so for example the Crusades many Muslims will point to the Crusades now and say this is another example of of Christian uh sort of superiority complex and trying to keep us down and oppressing us the Crusades were never even discussed in Islamic literature there was no muslim or Arabic word for Crusades until Christians came up with one in the 19th century okay um it just wasn’t a part of the Islamic mentality until the Ottoman Empire fell the Islamic world started losing its power and then these discussions started happening and that’s why you don’t hear the phrase Islam is a religion of peace until the 20th century that simply wasn’t a phrase it was never said it was never thought that wasn’t the way Muslims had thought up until that time tune in to the profile interview in association with Christianity magazine every Saturday at 400 p.m. only on Premier Christian radio where faith comes to [Music] life

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